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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 93 08:00:33 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu
Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu
Precedence: Bulk
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1289
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Sat, 30 Oct 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1289
Today's Topics:
`Vanity` Call Signs
Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta alphabets
HF bands in need of repair
HF USED RIG PRICE SURVEY
How to monitor police digital communications
ICOM 24AT problem **HELP**
Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
magazine article about antenna tuners
Problems with Kenwood TM-742A
SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
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We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 14:34:13 GMT
From: news.kpc.com!amd!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!jfh@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: `Vanity` Call Signs
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
bigsteve@dorsai.dorsai.org (Steve Coletti) wrote:
>Subject: 'Vanity' Call Signs - ON HOLD!
>
> I've been scanning through this thread and have come to the conclusion
>that no one knows that the program is now on indefinate hold. More on that
>later, but first I want to correct a popular misconception.
>
> According to the policy, vanity call signs were only to be issued to
>private and military radio clubs, although I'm willing to bet that it would
>have been extended to individuals sooner or later. The FCC will not be
>issuing these call signs. The vanity program would have gone into effect
>only after the FCC turned over the issuance of callsigns and amateur
>licenses to an authorized private agency under the Callsign Administrator
>Program. The administrator would have been selected from the 6 applicants,
>all of them are already in the VEC program.
My impression was that there were two separate but related proposals.
One program would have turned club signs over to one or more
administrators. That program is on hold.
The other program, which requires new computers and procedures at the FCC,
would allow operator-requested callsigns. I'm not sure of the status of
that proposal (I think it's still in the debate stage).
--
----------------------------------------------------
Jack Hamilton POB 281107 SF CA 94128 USA
jfh@netcom.com kd6ttl@w6pw.#nocal.ca.us.na
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:14:17 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!warwick!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!bck1@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta alphabets
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Alpha Bravo alphabets
Here is a collection of alphabets of the Alpha Bravo Charlie
Delta kind, variously known as radio alphabets, phonetic
alphabets and spelling alphabets. There are a number of
distinct ones for English, and also alphabets for:
French, German, Dutch, Flemish, Italian, Rumantsch,
Swedish, Finnish and Russian.
This posting supersedes the one of 25th September.
My thanks to the many contributors, not all of whom are
acknowledged below.
I can make no guarantee of accuracy of this information;
indeed please send me any corrections or additions.
Comments in square brackets are my own.
Brian Kelk bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk
29 October 1993
***** ENGLISH *****
The NATO phonetic alphabet:
Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India
Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo
Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu
[The same alphabet, modulo Alfa and Juliett, is approved by
the International Civil Aviation Organization and the FAA]
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:18:17 GMT
From: rtech!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!btoback@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: HF bands in need of repair
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2arced$8a6@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
>Has anybody noticed that the HF bands are in pretty poor shape as of late?
>
>It seems as though DX is hard to come by, at least far-away DX. Anyway,
>seeing as how there's a REALLY big DX contest this weekend, it would seem
>that the ionosphere is in need of some "pumping up."
>
>Do you think we could get NASA to get the shuttle astronauts to drop some
>spare ions into the atmosphere?
Actually, has anyone tried "meteor scatter" using the Shuttle's re-entry
trail? The ionization level wouldn't be as great as with something that
was actually burning up, but you'd know exactly where to point your beam
to get to it.
-- Bruce Toback
KN6MN
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 18:55:08 GMT
From: news.kpc.com!amd!netcomsv!netcom.com!netcomsv!behemoth.miro.com!marketingmac2.montage.com!user@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: HF USED RIG PRICE SURVEY
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <randall.751666881@infmx>, randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
wrote:
>
> USED HF & 6m RIG PRICE SURVEY
> 26 Oct 1993 Version
>
> Here is a list of actual transactions involving buying
> and selling of used HF amateur radios.
>
> I have absolutely no affiliation with any ham-radio-related
> business. Rigs are sorted by maker, model, and price. All
> transactions were made within the past three years. I welcome
> any additional responses; please indicate maker and model of
> your used rig, date bought/sold, how sold (Usenet, retailer,
> on air, private, etc.), price, condition, and any accessories
> or options. This survey is limited to used HF and 6m rigs only.
> For prices on new rigs, consult the AES catalog, or call a
> ham retailer for a quote.
>
[list deleted...]
I have not seen this list before, and think it represents a very valuable
service.
Are the prices quoted the ACTUAL TRANSACTION PRICE, or the asking price??
Thnx
Mark KM6FM
------------------------------
Date: 28 Oct 93 07:36:20 EDT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!mercury.wright.edu!desire.wright.edu!matrix.cs.wright.edu!isoper@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: How to monitor police digital communications
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1993Oct28.025204.11403@bongo.tele.com>, julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes:
> In article <051346Z27101993@anon.penet.fi> an40111@anon.penet.fi whines:
>>
>>Any help on the subject would be appreciated, as well
>>as suggestions for the acquisition of the appropriate
>>equipment.
>>
>>This pertains to the systems used by the corrupt
>>criminal cops of southern California.
>
> Geez, another tedious "no balls" anonymous post.
>
> Which "corrupt criminal cops" of southern California" are you
> talking about? LAPD, Sherrifs, San Fernando, Pasadena, Monterey Park,
> Hawthorne, Burbank?
>
> It seems that hiding your identity hides your thinking too. You
> need to try to be clear when making requests of others.
>
> --
> Julian Macassey, N6ARE. julian@bongo.tele.com
Maybe this individual belongs the same group of "Freedom Fighters" in So.
Cal. that are being investigated for their large purchases of 9mm Ammo
and Weapons through out the Midwest at gun shows. (This came from a
"corrupt criminal cop" friend of mine here in the midwest.)
---- Whoooo knows
------- Only the Shadow knows
(an approximate quote from a 1930s radio show - disclaimer for the
people with a precision fetish.)
------------------------------
Date: 28 Oct 93 16:18:14
From: yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!hideg@uunet.uu.net
Subject: ICOM 24AT problem **HELP**
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <SO-PATU.93Oct27225710@stekt4.oulu.fi> so-patu@stekt4.oulu.fi (Timo Patana) writes:
In article <1993Oct27.163820.8393@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph P. Wetstein) writes:
> but when I try to type in a frequency number, it only allows me to
> enter the 3rd digit! i.e. if the display reads 144.100, and I type 152,
> the display will read 141.52 ...
> Is it in some silly mode that I can easily get out of, or is it
> hosed?
Try pushing 3+light when turning power on...just a guess
Try light+B+3
or maybe light+B+#
--Steve
------------------------------
Date: 29 Oct 93 10:59:46 EDT
From: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
By operating from both Hawaii and the East Coast at the
top and bottom of the Sunspot cycles, I've come up with the
following conclusions:
Yes, propagation can be quite spotty--hundreds of stations
can be on in a contest and I'll just hear two or three stations
in a large area (such as New England). I assume from the contest
results and operating during other contests that the hundreds
of other stations were actually on.
Surprisingly, sometimes I'd even work those stations with my
my 2 watts! This is more apparent at the bottom of the cycle.
The explanation is that these stations have very high antennas,
which produce good signals at low radiation angles. Alternately,
you could be appropriately situated on a hill with a favorable
ground slope (such as Mt Greylock in Western Mass.) Simple
antennas in a good location often outperform big antennas in
a poor spot. An extra 10 dB of gain isn't enough to overcome
a 40 dB null....
Also, the path just might depend on something that is highly localized.
For instance, E-skip is known to involve small patches or clouds.
If the path is a result of several of these lining up just right,
it isn't surprising to me that only a few stations are heard
at one time.
In rec.radio.amateur.misc, prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) writes:
>
>Alan Brubaker (alan@olin.es.com) wrote:
>: In article <1993Oct27.200502.9559@VFL.Paramax.COM> rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM (Pete Rossi) writes:
>: >For example, the other night I was tuning around 15 meters about 9 PM local
>: >time (0100Z) and it sounded pretty dead .. but then I heard this one "PY"
>: >station. He has a reasonable signal but nothing else was on the band.
>: >It is hard to believe that in the whole continent of South America this
>: >was the only station on. I could not hear the W station he was working.
>
>He was the only station on with a $5000 Alpha or Henry 10K ultra (export
>version of course) and a Mosley Clasic 67 at 125 feet <g>
>
>: >Again, about a week ago I was tuning 15 meters in the early evening. Here
>: >were these *two* JA's coming through working U.S. stations. Now, here it is
>: >8 or 9 o'clock in the morning in Japan and you are trying to tell me that
>: >only *two* stations in all of Japan are on 15 meters?? Really?? They are
>: >supposed to have more hams than we do!
>
>They have a zillion hams in Japan, but they're all on V/UHF!
I've worked quite a bit of them on 10 and 15 meters. Relatively
few have 20 meter priveleges. Also, I've noted people tend to
compare numbers that mean different things. For instance, I
believe the numbers for Dayton represent the number of attendees.
However, the numbers for Japan's equivalent is a summed attendence
over several days. Last I heard, Japan still has lifetime ham
licenses, which might tend to inflate the total compared to the
US numbers. One of the biggest groups of amateur dropouts
seems to be University professors--they once had their license
but didn't have the time for amateur radio.
>
>: As we get into the depths of the sunspot minimum, the stations that
>: have the large antenna systems will stand out more and more. When
>: propagation is marginal, 100 watts and a vertical will simply not be
>: as visible as a KW and a high antenna. Us little guys are going to
>: get buried in the noise and QRM, and will likely go find something
>: more fun to do. Stay tuned for the next sunspot peak around the turn
>: of the century - about 6 years away. Good luck.
>
Not always. The most fun I had on 10 meters was at the bottom of
the sunspot cycle, where my 2 watts *really* stood out when the
band opened. At the top of the cycle, my signal got lost and I could
no longer call CQ have a little pileup of VKs or JAs wanting to work
a Hawaiian station. Of course, I don't recall ever operating when the
solar flux was below 60..... but there were real nice openings with
it in the low 70s.
Zack Lau KH6CP/1
Internet: zlau@arrl.org "Working" on 24 GHz SSB/CW gear
Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW/SSB/FM
US Mail: c/o ARRL Lab 80/40/20 CW
225 Main Street Station capability: 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz
Newington CT 06111 modes: CW/SSB/FM/packet
amtor/baudot
Phone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541
------------------------------
Date: 30 Oct 93 13:25:55 GMT
From: ogicse!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: magazine article about antenna tuners
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <931028133308_133@ccm.hf.intel.com> Cecil_A_Moore@ccm.hf.INTel.COM (Cecil A Moore) writes:
>Here is a quote from a recent magazine article about antenna tuners:
>
>"... it (the antenna tuner) also tunes out all mismatches in the system,
>including transmission line to antenna mismatch, and also any non-
>resonance in the antenna itself."
>
>Question: Is the meaning clear and if so, what is the meaning?
It's perhaps not as clear as it should be, but what it means is
that the combination of transmatch and the feedline, treated as a
transmission line transformer, can match the antenna to the
transmitter, and that you can introduce reactances at the transmatch
end that will be transformed, Smith Chart fashion, by the feedline
to a reactance at the antenna feedpoint that can tune the antenna
to resonance by center loading.
That's called a conjugate matching system. What it shouldn't
imply is that you can reduce SWR on the transmission line. In
fact, to act as a transmission line transformer, there must be
SWR on the line. SWR is your friend in this system. Obviously,
low loss transmission lines are preferred. This type of operation
is common with open wire feeders, the common 105 foot flattop
doublet is an example of this, as are the various flavors of
"Zepp" antenna. What may not be so obvious to some is that
coax fed antennas can be treated the same way if coax line loss
is low at the frequencies of operation.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV |"If 10% is good enough | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | for Jesus, it's good | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | enough for Uncle Sam."| emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | -Ray Stevens |
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 16:20:14 GMT
From: nntp.ucsb.edu!mustang.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!jdwhite@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Problems with Kenwood TM-742A
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I purchased a Kenwood TM-742A a couple weeks ago. I have noticed some
quirks with the unit and would like to hear from other 742A owners about their
experiences with this rig. Here are my experiences:
==> Initially, I had the 6M band unit installed as the third band. After the
first 3 hours of use, I went into DTSS mode on the 440 band. The unit froze
up and appeared to turn itself off. I pushed the power button, went into the
440 band, and pushed DTSS again; same thing happened. I had no problems
getting this to work on the 2M band. After repeating this 7-10 times the unit
finally got into a mode where it would turn on (show "-on-" on the display)
and then turn back off rather than display the three bands. I took the unit
back to the store that I purchased it from and swapped it for a new radio. I
installed the same 6M band unit an had the same problems. After removing the
6M unit DTSS worked fine on both bands, so I'm returning the 6M unit to
Kenwood.
==> I'm usually scanning on both bands when mobile. I have noticed that the
unit will beep and stop scanning on the 2M side, seemingly at random. Even if
I have set the control mode to the 440 side, the 2M side is always the side
that will stop scanning. Most puzzling.
==> I have had problems with certain squelch modes. I started by using the
"default" squelch mode (not Microprocessor or S-Meter control) and had
problems with the squelch suddenly breaking. I would end up turning the
squelch all the way up, yet the squelch would still be broken! *BUT* if I
turned the radio off and then back on I would have to turn the squelch all the
way back down to its previous position to find the threshold. I have
experienced this problem several times. I started using S-meter squelch and
have had no problems. Yesterday, I enabled Microprocessor squelch control. I
found that I had to keep resetting the squelch control a lot so far. I'll
probably go back to S-meter squelch eventually.
Those are the major gripes (so far). Anyone know of a mod to speed up the
scan rate? 2 ch/sec is too darn slow!
-Jason, N0RWU
--
Jason D. White Durham Center Operations Staff
jdwhite@iastate.edu Repeater Chairman, Cyclone Amateur Radio Club
Iowa State University Packet: n0rwu @ ki0q.ia.usa.na
Ames, Iowa
------------------------------
Date: 30 Oct 93 12:17:20 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
R:931030/1353Z @:F6CNB.#SETX.TX.USA.NA [SugarLand] #:59769 Z:77478
R:931030/0226z @:W5DDL.#LFTLA.LA.USA.NA [JNOS] #:46002 $:931029202643 Z:70503
SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-58.031
SAREX Keps & Update 10/30
Saturday 10/30/93 @ 00:00 UTC
Since all scheduled SAREX activities are now complete, several general
QSO opportunities are available. While the SAREX Working Group cannot
fully guarantee that the crew will be operating, there is a high
probability that the STS-58 astronauts will be ready to take general calls
over the continental U.S. on these passes. These opportunities include a
pass on orbit 192 at MET 11 days 22 hours and 29 minutes (10/30 at 13:22 UTC)
and a pass on orbit 193 at MET 12 days 0 hours 6 minutes (10/30 at 14:49 UTC).
Please note that many hams on the ground heard or worked the Shuttle Columbia
crew on several orbits today. Both voice and packet modes were operating.
Element set GSFC-031, generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR, will continue to be
the official SAREX element set for today. On orbit 181 Gil Carman, WA5NOM,
of the Johnson Space Center compared the orbiter state vector to GSFC-031.
The state vector was 6 seconds later than this element set. Other later
element sets (e.g. GSFC-038) are currently less accurate than GSFC-031.
STS-58
1 22869U 93065A 93300.17699070 0.00133671 99048-5 24183-3 0 318
2 22869 39.0252 71.9896 0012817 34.2105 325.9529 16.00500857 1383
Satellite: STS-58
Catalog number: 22869
Epoch time: 93300.17699070 (27 OCT 93 04:14:51.** UTC)
Element set: GSFC-031
Inclination: 39.0252 deg
RA of node: 71.9896 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-58
Eccentricity: 0.0012817 Keplerian Elements
Arg of perigee: 34.2105 deg
Mean anomaly: 325.9529 deg
Mean motion: 16.00500857 rev/day Semi-major Axis: 6651.1630 Km
Decay rate: 0.13E-02 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 281.30 Km
Epoch rev: 138 Perigee Alt: 264.25 Km
NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 031.
The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending
node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it
into agreement with the NASA numbering convention.
Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 22:11:36 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2ahec9INN6se@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <1993Oct26.130817.1696@mwk.com>, <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU>.Hawai
Subject : Re: Bird watt-meters can't be exported?
In article <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU> dave@esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes:
>Sigh... All right, you've all had your little joke; now, can someone
>say (sensibly) why these meters cannot be exported?
>
>--
>Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC PGP 2.3
Well Dave, environmentalists tell us that when a foreign animal species
is introduced to a region, the native species might not be equipped
to compete with the new species; extinction could possibly occure.
So, we have no choice but to NOT export our Birds - it would be an
irresponsible act to do otherwise. Sorry.
Jeff NH6IL
------------------------------
Date: 29 Oct 1993 16:26:44 GMT
From: mustang.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!anaxagoras.@nntp.ucsb.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <2ahec9INN6se@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <1993Oct26.130817.1696@mwk.com>, <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU>ng.gtefs
Subject : Re: Bird watt-meters can't be exported?
In article <4760@eram.esi.COM.AU>, Dave Horsfall <dave@esi.COM.AU> wrote:
>Sigh... All right, you've all had your little joke; now, can someone
>say (sensibly) why these meters cannot be exported?
My best guess: These are military surplus in new condition. As part
of low price you have to abide by a blanket covenant prohibiting export.
Rajiv
aa9ch
r-dewan@nwu.edu
------------------------------
Date: (null)
From: (null)
Alfred Benjamin Charles David Edward Frederick George Harry
Isaac Jack King London Mary Nellie Oliver Peter Queen Robert
Samuel Tommy Uncle Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra
[Swiss version: Andrew Charlie Lussy Queenie Sugar]
Sometimes used by radio hams (unofficial):
America Boston Canada Denmark England France Germany
Honolulu India Japan Kilowatt London Mexico Norway Ontario
or Ocean Pacific Quebec Radio Santiago or Spain Tokyo United
Victoria Washington Xray Yokohama Zanzibar
[Much variation: Amsterdam, Brazil, Baltimore, Chile,
Finland, Greece, Guatemala etc]
The ARRL (American Radio Relay League) version (1948):
Adam Baker Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John
king Lewis Mary Nancy Otto Peter queen Robert Susan Thomas
union Victor William x-ray young zebra
[Nowadays the ARRL endorses the NATO/ICAO alphabet]
------------------------------
Date: (null)
From: (null)
able baker charlie dog easy fox george how item jig king
love mike nan oboe peter queen roger sugar tare uncle victor
william x-ray yoke zebra
[This one seems to have undergone quite a lot of evolution,
with different branches of the U.S. armed forces using
different versions. Entries also cited: affirm, cast, hypo,
inter, negat, option, over, prep]
------------------------------
Date: (null)
From: (null)
Amsterdam Baltimore Casablanca Danemark Edison Florida
Gallipoli Havana Italia Jerusalem Kilogramme Liverpool
Madagascar New_York Oslo Paris Quebec Roma Santiago Tripoli
Uppsala Valencia Washington Xantippe Yokohama Zurich
[Perhaps 'international' more than 'English']
***** FRENCH *****
Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang <erikt@let.rug.nl>
anatole bernard c'ecile denise 'emile fran5cois g'erard
henri isidore jean kl'eber louis marcel nicole oscar pierre
quital robert suzanne th'er`ese ursule victor wagon xavier
yvonne zo'e
Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
(Swiss telephone directory)
Anna Berthe Ce'cile Daniel Emile Franc,ois Gustave Henri Ida
Jeanne Kilo Louise Marie Nicolas Olga Paul Quittance Robert
Suzanne The're`se Ulysse Victor William Xavier Yvonne Zurich
***** GERMAN *****
Contributor: mrosa@eso.org (Michael Rosa)
Anton Berta Caesar Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida
Julius Karl Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Paula Quelle Richard
Siegfried Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xanthippe Ypsilon
Zeppelin
Umlaut: A"rger O"dipus U"bel
More recent replacements: Konrad Zacharias
Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang <erikt@let.rug.nl>
anton bertha c"asar dora emil friederich gustav heinrich ida
julius kaufmann ludwig martha nordpol otto paula quelle
richard samuel theodor ulrich viktor wilhelm xanthippe
ypsilon zacharias
"a "arger
ch charlotte
"o "okonom
sch schule
"u "ubermut
Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
(Swiss telephone directory)
Anna Bertha Caesar Daniel Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida
Jakob Kaiser Leopold Marie Niklaus Otto Peter Quelle Rosa
Sophie Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xaver Yverdon Zuerich
Contributor: Christof A Neumann <neumann@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
(issued by Deutsche Bundespost)
Anton Bertha Caesar Dora Emil Friedrich Gustav Heinrich Ida
Jakob Konrad Ludwig Martha Nordpol Otto Paula Quelle Richard
Siegfried Theodor Ulrich Viktor Wilhelm Xantippe Ypsilon
Zeppelin
sch Schule
***** DUTCH and FLEMISH *****
Contributor: Erik Tjong Kim Sang <erikt@let.rug.nl>
Dutch Flemish
a anna arthur
b bernhard brussel
c cornelis carolina
d dirk desire
e eduard emiel
f ferdinand frederik
g gerard gustaaf
h hendrik hendrik
i izaak isidoor
j jan jozef
k karel kilogram
l lodewijk leopold
m marie maria
n nico napoleon
o otto oscar
p pieter piano
q quotient qualite
r rudolf robert
s simon sofie
t teunis telefoon
u utrecht ursula
v victor victor
w willem waterloo
x xantippe xavier
ij ijmuiden -
y ypsilon yvonne
z zaandam zola
***** ITALIAN *****
Contributor: ebuie@sed.csc.com (Elizabeth Buie)
ebuie@starlab.csc.com
Ancona, Bologna, Como, Domodossola, Empoli, Firenze, Genova,
Hacca, Imola, Jolly, Kappa, Livorno, Milano, Napoli,
Otranto, Pisa/Palermo, Quartomiglio, Roma, Savona/Siena,
Torino, Udine, Venezia, Wagner, Xilofono, York, Zara.
Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
(Swiss telephone directory)
Anna Battista Carol Davide Ernesto Federico Giovanni acca
Isidoro i_lungo cappa Luigi Maria Nicola Olga Pietro
Quintino Rodolfo Susanna Teresa Umberto Vittorio vu_doppia
ics ipsilon Zurigo
***** RUMANTSCH *****
Contributor: Rudolf Lais <chibm5hp@ibmmail.com>
(Swiss telephone directory)
Anna Berta Carla Dora Emil Flurin Guido Hugo Ida Judit Kilo
Luisa Maria Nesa Otto Paula Quirin Rita Silvia Toni Ursin
Victor Willi Xaver Yvonne Zita
***** SWEDISH *****
Contributors: simon@dront.nada.kth.se (Simon Tardell)
Jonas Wallgren <jwc@ida.liu.se>
Adam, Bertil, Cesar, David, Erik, Filip, Gustav, Helge,
Ivar, Johan, Kalle, Ludvig, Martin, Niklas, Olof, Petter,
Quintus, Rudolf, Sigurd, Tore, Urban, Viktor, Wilhelm,
Xerxes, Yngve, Z{ta, ]ke, [rlig, \sten.
where { is a with dots
] A with ring
[ A with dots
\ O with dots
NB that W does not belong to the Swedish alphabet
(it is merely considered a graphical variant of V).
***** FINNISH *****
Contributor: Jukka Rahkonen <jrahkone@viikki.helsinki.fi>
Aarne Bertta Celsius Daavid Eemeli Faarao Gideon Heikki
Iivari Jussi Kalle Lauri Matti Niilo Otto Paavo Kuu Risto
Sakari Tyyne Urho Ville Viski [ks{ Yrj| Tseta ]ke [iti \ljy
Uppercase Lowercase
] } a with circle (Swedish)
[ { a with dots
\ | o with dots
***** RUSSIAN *****
Contributor: tom@systemtechnik.tu-ilmenau.de (Thomas Planke)
Aleksej Boris Vasilij Grigorij Dmitrij Elena Zhenja Zoya
Ivan Ivan_Kratkij Kilowatt Leonid Maria Nikolai Olga Pavel
Roman Sergej Tatjana Uljana Fjodor Hariton Zaplja Chelovek
Shura Schuka Tviordiy_Znak Igrek Miagkiy_Znak Emilija Yuri
Jakow
***** END *****
Brian Kelk
Cambridge
U.K.
bck1@cl.cam.ac.uk
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End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1289
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